Lesson 157: にもかかわらず・にしても・にしたら
N2 · Lesson 157 · 18 min — Despite ~, even if ~ / either way ~, and thinking from the other person's side: deciding to go to Kyoto together
Last lesson, Neko-sensei told Rin that Hana is his grandmother. Rin fainted on the spot, and Neko-sensei even ate Rin's ramen... This lesson has three phrases for "giving ground" and "point of view": にもかかわらず (despite ~), にしても (even if ~ / either way), and にしたら (from ~'s side). Read the comic first!
After this lesson, you can:
- Use にもかかわらず for "despite ~", and tell it apart from のに and from にかかわらず (Lesson 145)
- Use にしても / にしろ / にせよ for "even if ~" and "whether A or B, ~"
- Use にしたら / にすれば to speak from someone else's side, and tell it apart from にとって
- Understand and use two common phrases: それにしても (still / even so) and どちらにしても (either way)
The 50-Year Promise
Rin is awake. Neko-sensei, who eats ramen with him every day, turns out to be Hana's grandson! (気づく=to notice, 祖母=my own grandmother, 祖父=my own grandfather, 約束=promise, 夢=dream)
にもかかわらず=despite ~; にしても=even if ~ / either way; にしたら=from ~'s side. Rin grumbled with のに. For everyday complaints use のに; にもかかわらず is more formal. Next: Grandpa!
Words for this lesson: giving ground, point of view, and promises
- 〜にもかかわらず (ni mo kakawarazu): despite ~; even though ~
- 〜にしても (ni shite mo): even if ~; whether A or B, ~
- 〜にしろ/〜にせよ (ni shiro / ni seyo): =にしても (firmer; にせよ is the most formal, for writing)
- 〜にしたら/〜にすれば (ni shitara / ni sureba): from ~'s point of view
- それにしても (sore ni shite mo): still / even so, ~ really is ...
- どちらにしても (dochira ni shite mo): either way; anyway
- 祖母 (sobo): (my own) grandmother
- 約束 (yakusoku): promise
- 気づく (kizuku): to notice
- 一緒 (issho): together
- 夢 (yume): dream
- いつまでも (itsumademo): forever; always
- 努力 (doryoku): effort
- 試合 (shiai): match; game
- 大勢 (ōzei): many people
- 満席 (manseki): full house
- 遅れる (okureru): to be late
- 連絡 (renraku): contact
- 孫 (mago): grandchild
- つらい (tsurai): painful; hard to bear
Grammar 1 / 3: にもかかわらず
Plain form / noun+にもかかわらず=despite ~: the first part is a fact, and the result is "not what you'd expect". 雨にもかかわらず、試合は 行われた=Despite the rain, the game was held.
- Form: plain form / N+にもかかわらず: With verbs and い-adjectives, use the plain form: 降って いる にもかかわらず、寒い にもかかわらず. Nouns connect directly, with no だ: 雨にもかかわらず. With な-adjectives, use 〜である before it (also common in formal writing): 静かである にもかかわらず.
- Meaning: despite ~, ...: The first part is a settled fact (not an "if ~" idea). The result goes against what you'd expect. It can carry admiration or surprise, or regret and dissatisfaction.
- Compare with のに: のに is spoken and more emotional, often used to complain: 雨なのに! にもかかわらず is more formal and common in news, reports and speeches. Neither can be followed by invitations like 〜ましょう or requests like 〜て ください.
- Compare with にかかわらず (Lesson 145): Just one も apart, but the meaning is completely different: 天気にかかわらず=regardless of the weather (no matter which); 雨にもかかわらず=despite the rain (it is already raining).
- 毎日 一緒だった にもかかわらず、気づかなかった。 — Despite being together every day, we didn't notice.
- 雨にもかかわらず、試合は 行われた。 — Despite the rain, the game was held as planned.
- 努力した にもかかわらず、合格できなかった。 — Despite his efforts, he failed the exam.
- 雪にもかかわらず、お客さんが 大勢 来た。 — Despite the snow, many customers came.
- 寒い にもかかわらず、たくさんの 人が 署名して くれた。 — Despite the cold weather, many people helped by signing the petition.
Grammar 2 / 3: にしても
Plain form / noun+にしても=even if ~; AにしてもBにしても=whether A or B, ~. にしろ and にせよ mean the same but sound firmer. どちらにしても=either way, ~.
- Form: plain form / N+にしても: With verbs and い-adjectives, use the plain form: 行く にしても、遅れる にしても、高い にしても. Nouns connect directly: 肉にしても. Don't use the て-form: ✗遅れて にしても.
- Meaning 1: even if ~: You accept one situation (it may be a possibility or a fact), then say "even so, ~". The second part is often the speaker's judgment, request or will. Unlike にもかかわらず, a request can follow: 遅れる にしても、連絡して ください.
- Meaning 2: AにしてもBにしても: You list two options: "whether A or B, the result is the same": 行く にしても 行かない にしても. Add にしても to both. A fixed phrase: どちらにしても=either way.
- にしろ, にせよ and それにしても: にしろ and にせよ mean the same as にしても. にしろ sounds a bit firmer and is used in speech too. にせよ is the most formal: どちらにせよ. それにしても is another common phrase: "still / even so, ~ really is ...". Use it to change the subject or react. It does not mean "so".
- どちらにしても、会いに 行こう。 — Either way, let's go meet her.
- 遅れる にしても、連絡は して ください。 — Even if you'll be late, please contact me first.
- 行く にしても 行かない にしても、明日までに 返事を ください。 — Whether you go or not, please reply by tomorrow.
- どちらにせよ、一度 京都へ 行く 必要が ある。 — Either way, we have to make a trip to Kyoto.
- それにしても、今日は 寒いですね。 — Still, it's really cold today, isn't it?
Grammar 3 / 3: にしたら
Noun (person)+にしたら / にすれば=from ~'s point of view: you swap places and imagine that person's feelings or thoughts. 祖母にしたら、五十年 待った 約束だ=From Grandma's point of view, it's a promise she waited 50 years for.
- Form: N (person)+にしたら / にすれば: Put a person or a group before it: 祖母にしたら、お店にすれば. にすれば means the same as にしたら. A verb can't connect directly. Make it describe a noun first: 待つ 人にしたら.
- Meaning: from ~'s point of view: The speaker "swaps places" and imagines how that person feels or thinks. So guesses like だろう, と 思う or みたいだ often follow. Requests like "please ~" do not.
- Compare with にとって: To give your own opinion of something (hard, easy, important), にとって is the most natural: わたしにとって、漢字は やさしい. にしたら is mainly for stepping into "someone else's" place, with a feeling of "I think that's how they must feel".
- Don't mix it up with としたら: You learned としたら before: "if ~ is the case": 行く としたら. In this lesson's にしたら, a person comes first, and it means "from that person's point of view". Also, noun+にしたら can be にする (to decide on) +たら: コーヒーにしたら=if you choose coffee.
- 祖母にしたら、五十年 待った 約束だ。 — From Grandma's point of view, it's a promise she waited 50 years for.
- おじいちゃんにすれば、夢みたいな 話だろう。 — If it were Grandpa, it would probably feel like a dream.
- お客さんにしたら、一時間 待つのは 長い。 — From a customer's point of view, an hour's wait is too long.
- 親にしたら、子どもは いつまでも 子どもだ。 — From a parent's point of view, a child is always a child.
- 反対する 人にすれば、道路の 安全の ほうが 大切なのだ。 — From the point of view of people who object, road safety matters more.