“〜ni shite wa”: For 〜 (Considering) — Contrary to Expectation [JLPT N3]
Content by NTJ Kuma · Nihongo to Japan editorial team · Updated July 27, 2026
「新人にしてはよくやっている」 — judged against that yardstick, it's surprisingly off.
「新人にしては、よく気がきく」 — 「にしては」, for a ~, (surprisingly) …
「彼は新人にしては、よく気がきく」 (for a newcomer, he's remarkably attentive) — 「(noun/verb plain form) + にしては」 means “for ~, by ~'s standard, (surprisingly) …”: setting a status, condition, or standard (a newcomer, a 3-year-old), the result then exceeds (or falls short of) what that standard would lead you to expect. This guide covers 「にしては」's attachment, that “by this standard I wouldn't have expected this” feel, and separates it from 「わりに/として」.
Core: for this status/condition, this wasn't expected
The core of 「にしては」 is “measured by some standard, the result exceeds (or falls short of) that standard's expectation” — set a status, condition, or standard, and the second clause defies “what you'd expect by that standard”:
- Exceeding expectation (good): 彼は新人にしては、よく気がきく (for a newcomer, he's attentive — didn't expect a newcomer to be this good).
- Falling short (bad): プロにしては、下手だ (for a pro, he's poor — didn't expect a pro to be this bad).
Feel: “for ~, yet (surprisingly) …” — set a standard, then say the result exceeds/falls short of what that standard expects.
How to Connect
| Form | Attachment | Example |
|---|---|---|
| noun + にしては | for … | 新人にしては |
| verb plain form + にしては | given that … | 準備したにしては |
| (followed by a defies-expectation evaluation) | yet surprisingly … | よくできている (it's surprisingly well made) |
Example sentences
- 彼は新人にしては、よく気がきく。(For a newcomer, he's remarkably attentive.) — exceeding expectation (good)
- 3歳の子にしては、難しい言葉を知っている。(For a 3-year-old, he knows difficult words.) — exceeding expectation
- 初心者にしては、上手だ。(For a beginner, he's good.) — praise
- あれだけ練習したにしては、結果が出なかった。(Given all that practice, the results didn't come.) — falling short
- 12月にしては、暖かい。(For December, it's warm.) — defying expectation
⚠️ Common mistakes to avoid
① 「にしては」 (defies expectation) vs 「として」 (as, a neutral status). Both take a status, but mean entirely different things! にしては = for ~, ‘yet' (defies expectation, the second clause surprising for that status) (新人にしては上手 = for a newcomer, he's good — unexpected); として = as ~ (a neutral status, standpoint, no defied expectation) (新人として頑張る = work hard as a newcomer — just stating status). にしては carries “surprise, exceeding/falling short of expectation,” として just neutrally states “as a certain status” — don't confuse them.
② The second clause must be a ‘defies-expectation' evaluation. にしては's second clause must ‘not match' what that standard would lead you to expect (exceeding or falling short) — this is its core. ✗ 新人にしては、まだ下手だ (a newcomer being still poor matches expectation, so にしては is unnatural) → 新人だから、まだ下手だ (still poor because he's a newcomer — matching expectation uses から). Use にしては only for exceeding/falling short (新人にしては上手 = for a newcomer, he's good).
③ Attachment: noun directly, verb plain form. 新人にしては (noun directly), 勉強したにしては (verb た-form/plain form), 日本人にしては. Nouns attach directly (no だ), verbs use the plain form (勉強した/勉強する + にしては).
🔄 Nuance & comparison: にしては/わりに/として/のに
| Form | Feel | Example |
|---|---|---|
| 〜にしては | for … yet (defies expectation, a clear standard) | 新人にしては上手 |
| 〜わりに | compared to …, yet (a proportional surprise) | 値段のわりに美味しい |
| 〜として | as … (neutral status, no defied expectation) | 新人として頑張る (works hard as a newcomer) |
| 〜のに | although … yet (with dissatisfaction/surprise) | 練習したのに負けた (lost even though they practised) |
💡 The one thing to remember
The core of 「にしては」 is “measured by some standard (status/condition), the result exceeds or falls short of that standard's expectation” — set a standard (a newcomer, age 3, December), and the second clause defies expectation (新人にしては上手 = for a newcomer, he's good; プロにしては下手 = for a pro, he's poor). Its point is “by this standard, I wouldn't have expected this.” Three points: ① the second clause must defy expectation (matching expectation uses 「から」, not にしては); ② separate it from 「として (as, neutral status)」 — にしては carries surprise, として just states status; ③ attach nouns directly, verbs in plain form. It's close to 「わりに (compared to …, yet)」, but にしては has a more concrete, clear standard (a specific status/norm). To say “for ~, (surprisingly) …,” にしては is spot-on.
❓ Quick FAQ
Q: How do I tell 「にしては」 from 「として」? (both take a status/standpoint)
Completely different: one carries “defied expectation (surprise),” the other is a “neutral status.” 「にしては」 = for ~, ‘yet' (surprisingly) … (defies expectation: the second clause exceeds or falls short of that status/standard's expectation): 彼は日本人にしては、英語がとても上手だ (for a Japanese person, his English is very good — people assume Japanese aren't that good at English, but he is — surprising), この値段にしては、質がいい (for this price, the quality is good — didn't expect this quality at this price), 子供にしては、しっかりしている (for a child, he's very mature — didn't expect a child to be so mature). It always carries a “mismatch with expectation” surprise. 「として」 = as ~, in the status/standpoint of ~ (neutrally stating status, qualification, no surprise): 彼は医者として、患者を診る (as a doctor, he sees patients — just stating status), 日本代表として、試合に出る (compete as Japan's representative), 責任者として、謝罪する (apologize as the person in charge). It's just “doing something in a certain status,” neutral. So: “for … yet surprisingly … (defies expectation)” → にしては; “as … (neutrally stating status/standpoint)” → として. E.g., 「新人にしてはよくやる」 = does surprisingly well for a newcomer (with surprise); 「新人として頑張る」 = works hard as a newcomer (just status). The difference is whether there's a “surprise, defied-expectation” flavor.
Q: How do I tell 「にしては」 from 「わりに」? (both ‘compared to …, yet …')
Very close (both “mismatch with expectation, contrast”), differing in the nature of the standard. 「にしては」 = for a ‘clear status, standard,' yet … (the standard is a concrete, explicit status or norm): プロにしては下手だ (for a pro, he's poor — the standard is the clear status “pro”), 5年も習っているにしては、上達しない (given 5 years of study, no progress — the standard is the concrete fact “5 years of study”). Its standard is “a clearly identifiable status/condition.” 「わりに」 = compared to …'s (degree, proportion), yet … (stressing a ‘proportion, degree' contrast, the standard can be vaguer): 年齢のわりに、若く見える (looks young for his age — a proportion: actual age vs appearance), 値段のわりに、美味しい (tasty for the price — good value), 努力したわりに、成果が少ない (few results compared to the effort — a proportional contrast). It stresses “A's degree and B's degree aren't proportional.” So: “for a clear status/standard, yet …” → にしては; “compared to …'s degree/proportion, yet …” → わりに. Often interchangeable (新人にしては/新人のわりに), but にしては has a more concrete, explicit standard, わりに stresses “a contrast of degree/proportion” (often with quantifiable things like 年齢・値段・努力).
🖊️ Practice Questions (5)
Q1. 「新人___、よくやっている。」(for a newcomer, doing very well)
(A) にしては (B) として (C) について (D) によって
Q2. 「3歳の子___、難しい言葉を知っている。」(for a 3-year-old child)
(A) にしては (B) のために (C) によると (D) において
Q3. 「初心者にしては上手だ」の意味は?
(A) By a beginner's standard, quite good (better than expected)
(B) A beginner must be good
(C) A beginner can't possibly be good
(D) Not a beginner
Q4. 「にしては」が表すのは?
(A) Given a certain standard, the result is unexpected for that standard
(B) As a certain status/role (neutral)
(C) Because of a certain reason
(D) For a certain purpose
Q5. 接法が正しいのは?
(A) 値段が高いにしては、質が悪い。 (B) 高いにしてはだ。
(C) 子供にしてはの考え。 (D) 学生をにしては。
Answer Explanations
1. (A) にしては ── For a newcomer, doing well (better than expected).
2. (A) にしては ── For a 3-year-old child.
3. (A) ── By a beginner's standard, quite good (better than expected).
4. (A) ── Given a certain standard, the result is unexpected.
5. (A) ── 「高いにしては質が悪い」(for something expensive, the quality is poor) is correct.